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Changeology
Strong, Wild, Unstoppable: How to Fuel Your Body for Any Kind of Adventure--Or Change
In this episode of the Changeology podcast, I chat with Mackenzie Griffith, aka Coach Mac, a fitness and nutrition expert who takes a refreshingly different approach to health and wellness. Coach Mac challenges the traditional fitness industry norms–especially the popular “buckle down” mentality–and emphasizes sustainable, realistic habits that empower women to prepare their bodies to be ready for any adventure–and of course, to build strength, confidence, and long-term well-being too.
We dive into what makes Coach Mac’s philosophy stand out, how it differs from the mainstream "fitness industrial complex," and the practical steps people can take to break free from restrictive fitness mindsets. Stay tuned to the very end to hear about Coach Mac’s "Dial Method," a powerful framework for creating flexibility and balance in health routines.
If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed by diet culture or confused by conflicting fitness advice–or like it simply doesn’t resonate with your goals to live life adventurously– this episode is for you. Coach Mac’s insights will help you redefine success in your health journey and create habits that truly fit your strong, wild, and unstoppable life.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
🌟 How to break free from rigid diet and exercise rules
🌟 Why mainstream fitness advice often fails people in the long run
🌟 What the "Dial Method" is and how it helps create lasting change
🌟 Practical steps to build a healthier relationship with food and movement
You can connect with Coach Mac here:
https://www.adventurereadyacademy.com/
https://www.instagram.com/brasstacksstrong/
https://www.youtube.com/@brasstacksstrong
If you want Meg's support during your significant change, you can apply to work with her here.
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Mackenzie Griffith: Changeology Podcast Recording - February 12
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@0:00 - Meg Trucano
Yeah, so I am really taken with your philosophy on fitness and nutrition because it's a little bit different than a lot of what's out there.
Just as a little bit of a backstory, I have been very interested in health and nutrition and fitness for a really long time, but for more, shall we call them vanity reasons, right?
And, you know, I know I'm not the only one to feel like I've gotten a little bit of whiplash from all the different kinds of perspectives out there and all the different information and sometimes it conflicts and all of that.
So I'd love to hear your philosophy on fitness and nutrition and, yeah, it's a little bit different vibe. So could you explain?
@0:51 - Coach Mac
Absolutely. So, listen, I'm a raging hedonist and I'm just on this planet to have a good time and have lots of experiences.
and connect with people and that's what I'm here to do so my taking care of my body needed to reflect that but I've I've been an athlete my whole life played sports and everything out there it was just it was all about grit discipline buckling down meal plans and making sure it's very structured which is great I mean great structures great but too much structure too much rigidity really made me feel key like it I rebelled against it and because of that I either pushed too hard to try and conform to what was asked or I just didn't do it I don't want to so I spent years and years and years kind of piecing together the bits and pieces that really worked for me and felt good and creating a structure that what had structure
was malleable enough to move within and could change with me and change with my life and whatever was going on in it.
And that way I wanted to show up for it because you've got to want to show up for taking care of your body.
You can't resent that process. It's not going to go well for you. So the whole idea is to find a way to let it be easy and let it be fun.
And that's with food too.
@2:28 - Meg Trucano
Let it be easy and let it be fun. I probably need to have that tattoo done right about the body somewhere.
@2:34 - Coach Mac
I might do that. Yeah.
@2:37 - Meg Trucano
Let it be easy and fun. Yeah, that is almost a diametric opposite of, you say, every single other kind of fitness program.
It's just like you got to do the thing. And if you don't do the thing, it says something about you.
you work with a lot of humans. And you see a lot of people. I'm sure a lot of different backgrounds and different fitness levels, different kind of fluency with nutrition lingo and things like that.
Is there a common misconception that you see in your folks about fitness and nutrition or about sticking with a program?
@3:22 - Coach Mac
Oh man, yeah. It's always a red flag if someone comes to me saying they need to buckle down. That's like, okay, so you haven't found a method that aligns with how you want to live every day if you need to buckle down.
Or if they're trying, if they feel like a failure when they can't show up the way they want to.
So if they're being a little bit too perfectionist with it and then, you know, happens and then they can't do what they want, and then they feel like a failure.
It's common and that's a problem because in this human life or living failure is a feature, not a bug.
It's guaranteed to happen. Hundreds, if not thousands of times, you're going to fail it, , left and right. And that's fine.
So how fast can you forgive yourself and get back into the general area of where you want to be?
Yeah.
@4:30 - Meg Trucano
And I've heard you talk before about this all or nothing mindset, very similar to what you just described. I know I have certainly been caught up in this web of a way of thinking, right?
It's a cognitive distortion. And all or nothing thinking is, you know, oh, my gosh, I had a piece of pizza or I had, oh, I don't know, the entire pizza.
And that means that I just what the hell is the point of doing anything? Yeah, ever again. So what would you say to somebody who has historically struggled with keeping up with a program, but also keeping in mind what you said about the not really quite understanding the buckle down piece of it?
@5:26 - Coach Mac
Sure. So for those all or nothing thinkers, which by the way, I have personally gone through any anything that my clients have gone through it.
I've done all the extremes. I've done all the fitness trends. I've done all the diet. I've done all of it.
I have made the mistakes over and over and over and over and over again. I completely understand where they're coming from and that's okay.
It's okay. So for the all or nothing, which I also tend to dip into or want to dip into.
do sometimes. I like to introduce to my trainees a dial for them to rank up as needed. So with the dial, the 10 on the dial is like, all right, this is my plan exactly, right?
This is I do the workout as planned, I eat the foods as needed that day and I ace everything.
Wonderful, beautiful. We love when we can do that. And then on the other end of the dial, it's not zero, it's not nothing, it's just, it's the bare minimum that feels totally doable and easy to show up for you.
So for example, my 10 for the week with like, all right, I crushed my three strength training workouts, I hit seven to 10k steps, usually just walking, and I smash my protein goals every day.
right, cool, that's a 10. We're at the other end at the one we've got, okay, I'm definitely gonna get my
That's because that feels easy. I can go for walks. I can definitely go for walks. That feels totally doable for me and it feels really good.
And I can center my meals around protein. Does it mean I'm hitting all the protein goals? Maybe not. That's fine, but I've centered every meal around protein.
That feels really doable for me. So that's my one. That's the bare minimum. And then we've got shape and gray in between, right?
But what we don't have is a zero where we just throw our hands up and say, it. I couldn't do it perfectly.
So I've got one flash tire. I'm going to slash my other three.
@7:35 - Meg Trucano
One flat tire.
@7:39 - Coach Mac
going to slash my other three, right? We dial it down to adjust with what we've got going on. And it can be anything.
know, it could be your kid get back. And now, okay, your whole day looks different as a surprise. You couldn't plan for it.
So cool. can we dial down to? can we do differently without quitting?
@8:00 - Meg Trucano
And I think the beauty of that system is, A, finding the control, the semblance of control that you have over your own choices, And that's kind of, that's been the beauty for me in the dial method is finding, finding that just like baseline level where I feel like I have a little tiny bit of control left over my real day that got out of control and, and then the second thing is it really does help you with continuity of momentum, right, like it just, it stops you from that like whiplash that you get after you eat the whole pizza or you have that, you know, crazy beer that was somehow 15% alcohol or whatever it is.
So I love the beauty and the simplicity of the dial method, but it seems so counter to kind of just the general.
@9:00 - Coach Mac
all zeitgeist of of um of fitness these days so sure and it doesn't feel like enough often like if you're not brushing it and you show up for something smaller that day the little voice is like well but is that enough to do is that enough to get results was that enough for what I need kind of thing um and the thing is it's like you're not your body's not made in one workout your body's not made in one meal either direction so yes it is enough it is enough to keep your momentum a momentum like you were saying is crucial because inertia is a if she's not on our side like if she's on our side we're great we're cruising right we've got it right and then we hit a little speed bump and if we come to a complete stop rank in those gears to get back into it it feels like a slog and that's no fun and again if if you're not having a tiny little ounce of fun or ease
enjoyment when it comes to taking care of your body. It just does not bode well for your mental health or your physical health.
So it has to what you show up for is enough and has to be enough to do some good, keep your momentum, keep you from sliding backwards.
Sometimes that can just be the goal. And a lot of your time is spent maintaining what you've built.
@10:23 - Meg Trucano
We're not always climbing.
@10:25 - Coach Mac
Sometimes we are just we're cruising altitude. We're just maintaining. that's a beautiful spot to be. That means you've made some progress and you're maintaining that.
@10:35 - Meg Trucano
That's gorgeous. Yeah. And that means that you've got the habits in place and you've got, you know, a really strong solid foundation for it, which, yeah, I appreciate very much.
So tell us a little bit about the adventure Academy.
@10:53 - Coach Mac
Adventure Ready Academy is to get you ready for adventure at any time. So adventure is Completely subjective and different for everyone.
So we've got some people who like outdoor adventure like biking and hiking and climbing mountains and all that, which is Brad.
We've got some people I've had trainees who are just like, Oh, I just want to keep up with my kids and not feel frail and drained all the time and I want to be able to pick them up and run around totally totally.
And that's a great, that's a wonderful way to be adventure ready. So it's whatever you want to do. I'm an adrenaline junkie, so I want to be able to go like, roll myself off of cliff or building and just feel like I'm physically capable or go like play a game of pickleball or tennis or something and just not worry that my body is not up for the task or that I will pay a heavy price the next day or be able to not keep up with people, you know.
So adventure ready is whatever you want it to be, but it's for the people who use their body to express their freedom.
@12:00 - Meg Trucano
awesome. Oh, I love that. Yeah, that's a really awesome way to think about that. What beautiful.
@12:07 - Coach Mac
Maybe it's just the raging Sagittarius in me, but it's all about the freedom.
@12:12 - Meg Trucano
I love it. I love it. So what is what is what good way to bring in a little bit of fun and a little bit of levity into your fitness and nutrition?
@12:23 - Coach Mac
God, that's going to be job is helping people find that flavor. So if a trainee is coming to me and she's struggling within, she's barely just like down in the doldrums a little bit.
It's like, okay, what would it look like if this was more fun? And it's a different answer for everyone.
And some people are like, man, you know, if I just had like a killer playlist that amped me up, it's like easy.
Next problem, make the playlist go. We can all share our playlist too for inspiration. Um, that's the beauty of having a group around and some people, some people are just like, you know, I just need like a little, I hate doing cardio, but I need a little reward.
Like what, like if I could watch my, my programs while I'm doing my, my sit down cardio of some kind, and then I would totally do it and show up for that, or I'd go for my steps.
If I can listen to the podcast that I love, but I only get to listen to it when I go from my steps.
@13:26 - Meg Trucano
So I look forward to it. And I mean, like a little reward, a little treato, you know, we need treats.
@13:33 - Coach Mac
Yeah, it's treats that support our goals and not detract from our goals.
@13:36 - Meg Trucano
Yes. Yes. but you, as you have reminded me many times, um, there's room for treats in a well, God, yeah.
@13:44 - Coach Mac
Oh, God.
@13:46 - Meg Trucano
And I love that as a coach, you like to eat, I'd like, oh my God, it makes enjoy very excited that you like to eat as well.
I love to eat.
@13:55 - Coach Mac
don't, I'm not a fan of meal prepping, just for me personally, if people like to do it, Mazel, that's so great.
I don't, I don't like to do that. It annoys me. I also, I can eat some of the same things for like a day or two, maybe, but I need a little more variety going on and, and all that kind of stuff.
So it's a matter of finding the thing that works for you. If milk prep works for you, great. I'm not going to stand in your way.
@14:24 - Meg Trucano
Yeah. So this podcast is all about supporting ourselves through navigating some kind of a big change. And sometimes that big change relates to our health and fitness.
And sometimes health and fitness is really just, it, well, let me rephrase, it feels like a separate thing. So there was period of time, not too long ago, over the holidays, where my family,
was sick for a six solid weeks and we are talking like actual like I was afraid one of my kids was gonna die kind of sick like very very ill family and I was so stressed out and the absolute first thing out the window was myself was taking care of myself and what would you what would you say to someone who is in that level like the dial method like we're not even at dial method yet we are we are starting from from real rock bottom low how do you how do you address those people and the people that just really have backburner themselves sure when that when that kind of stuff happens so I kind of I chip things into couple categories we've got chaos and general life chaos that can kind of mess with your routine and then we've got crisis
@16:00 - Coach Mac
and crisis is going to throw the routine out the window. It cannot happen. And so for crisis, huge, huge life changes, illness, things involving the hospital, all that kind of stuff, yes, that's when zero might happen on that dial, you know?
So at that point, kind of acknowledging that that's where you're at, it's like, listen, this is where we're at right now.
I know we'll be able to get back into it at some point. And right now, taking care of myself looks different.
And that depends on you, what it looks like, you know? So when you're sick, okay, taking care of myself means drinking fluids, taking my kid's temperature.
@16:52 - Meg Trucano
Right?
@16:54 - Coach Mac
making sure I'm close to a bathroom at all times, finding ways to soothe yourself. mentally so that you can kind of take your body out of fight or flight if needed resting super hard super super hard doing what you got to do to nourish your body so like cool maybe i'm ordering you know insta cart chicken soup to my door and that's just got to happen and that's great that's wonderful so like what is what does it look like now for me to take care of myself through this um and in my life i would just went through a divorce and buying a house and adopting a dog in the same month uh it was lots of big life changes and i did not strength train for two solid months like there was just too much emotional stuff happening that when i thought about like okay maybe i could get a workout in my whole body it was like no no thank you like on a very visceral level and i've learned to listen to her when she says that because i've got work her in the past but we're gonna work out strapping and then coming
And I only dig myself deeper into like a stressed out state is all stresses stress on the body, mental stress, physical stress, at all kind of culminates in the same way.
So if you don't balance that with rest and building, you're going to end up in a crappy place where you don't feel good.
So, all right, string training, not a thing right now. That's cool. I know I'm going to get back into that.
I'm going to I'm going to set that for myself. We are coming back to this. We're going to dip our toe in when we feel capable of dipping a toe in.
Okay, cool. We're going to set that aside. For now, what can I do to take care of myself? I can sure as get the steps.
Take that dog for all her little walkies and me for all my little walkies. And we can smash that, right?
We can get like a solid eight to 10 K a day if that's that's our main movement. We might do it like a little bit of like restorative yoga.
That feels It's good. Got felt manageable. Some breath work. Just some like it's still taking care of my physical body.
Just on a much dialed down level. And then with food, it was like, can I find some protein? Probably I can find like I can order chicken in my pad type.
But I just ordered, you know what I mean? Like it was just what are the minimums here to take care of myself while I'm going through this thing.
These big these big changes and everything's up in the air and tumultuous and chaotic. Yeah.
@19:37 - Meg Trucano
You mentioned two things that I think are a really interesting dovetail with change and navigating change. One is trusting the process, trusting that you are going to get back to a point where you can manage the strength training and all of that.
But another thing is listening to your body and you actually once told me um that the wisdom in our bodies is like it's millennia old right like we've been the DNA in our bodies it's old and it's just this mess of of a head up here that kind of like things we know better right so you speak to those two elements of like what does it feel like for someone who's not used to trusting the process not used to trusting themselves listening to their body what is that for a newbie what can that look like yeah i bet that is gonna feel really uncomfortable and really uncertain and that's just gonna have to be part of the process because anytime we learn anything we're gonna be a little uncomfortable and a little uncertain right if i learn to play the guitar it's gonna i'm gonna be like what is happening i don't know this is gonna be awkward and not great um so i think i like
@21:00 - Coach Mac
to tell myself that that's okay. Like, Hey, you're learning something new, it's okay that it's a little, it feels a little cringe right now.
It feels a little crunchy, it feels a little uncertain. That's okay for you to do. And you can, let's keep working through that process and moving toward the thing, what's the thing past all that crunchiness that we're moving toward?
And let's kind of focus on that. So it's like, all right, I'm playing guitar, I'm going to want to, I want to do a Britney spear sing along with my friends.
And that's important to me. So I'm going to need to practice some chords right now, even though I'm really bad at it.
My fingers hurt. Right, so same thing with working out, was like, Oh man, I am bad at this. My body awareness is crap.
What are my limbs doing? I don't know, where should I be feeling this? don't know. That's when a little structure helps to so a structure and a guide.
Like I fully support someone having a coach at one point in their life you don't need to have a coach forever.
But some to really like help you finesse your movement pattern so that you're not reinforcing that movement patterns that are going to hurt you down the line, help you like give you a little structure while you're being a little like chaos goblin and kind of just muppeting through, right?
@22:17 - Meg Trucano
So I think like you can mup it around but like you're still within the structure, right?
@22:22 - Coach Mac
I think that's really helpful. I've had coaches for anything that I really want to learn that feels big and hard.
It's like I always find a coach to help with some general structure while I figure out what feels aligned, what feels good, what feels easy to show up for, the angle that feels easy.
@22:43 - Meg Trucano
Yeah, I mean we're both coaches. We both understand the value of having somebody, you know, not only an expert and especially in the fitness part of things and the nutrition part of things, not only an expert to show you like cut through all the crap and show you.
what actually is important and what is just nonsense that is, like, do this first and then you can get to the cream of the whole thing.
@23:13 - Coach Mac
There are people trying to, white rice or brown rice, like, you ain't there, friends. That is minutiae. That is grains of sand.
need boulders. We got to get the boulders in place, the ones that move the needle and actually count toward what you want to do.
You don't need to be drinking, like, tart, cherry antioxidant juice after your workout. You ain't even eating protein to rebuild the muscles.
So, yes, totally agree.
@23:39 - Meg Trucano
Find yourself the support that you need and, you know, it sounds like you are a big fan of the idea that support comes from within, but it also comes from other people and other sources.
So, you have been through some lately. What have you found in addition to to kind of walk in the walk of your own program, right, or walk in the talk of your own program, what else have you found to be supportive through this multiple major transitions of your life?
@24:16 - Coach Mac
I think reframing things as how they are positively affecting me. So if you're viewing yourself as losing something, that can feel very painful.
So in divorce, it's like I'm losing this person, but I was kind of reframing it as like we're being released from paths that we didn't align with.
Like I'm released from her path that I didn't align with and she was released from mine. And so now I'm free to go down my own path over this direction and claim whatever is at the end of that one.
@24:54 - Meg Trucano
And that's what was meant for me.
@24:56 - Coach Mac
so it feels good to be released from something that wasn't meant for you. And you can still feel and process those other emotions that come with it.
I feel like I went through all the human emotions one by one and things cropped up was like, Oh, that's a new one.
Cool. Well, let's feel that. Let's, let's work through that and what it feels like. And I wonder why I'm feeling that sometimes you, you don't know why you're feeling something.
And I don't think it's, I think in our Western culture, we're taught to dig to find why. And I, that can be helpful, but sometimes you don't need to smell the trash before you take it out.
Like, you don't have to sit there and huff it, you know, you can just take out the trash, this.
Well, I don't need to know why I'm feeling so now, but I do feel ready to release like anger right now.
I don't even know exactly why and I definitely don't need to stew in it. How about I go ready to release this because it's not serving me right now.
So I can let it go.
@25:59 - Meg Trucano
I love I love that, sometimes you don't need to smell the trash before you take it out. I love that.
You're just full of these wonderful one liners, Coach Mac, love it. So, for someone out there who is perhaps interested in lading into the fitness and nutrition, maybe they've quote unquote failed many a time before, what would you recommend as like a good first place to start?
@26:33 - Coach Mac
If you've already dipped your toe in and you've already tried some stuff, I think you're at the point where you could do with a flexible structure of some kind.
Because here's the thing, if you tried and filled in the past before, if you just go like a brand new person who's like
We'll start at square one again and go from there. Kind of like 75 hard. Have you heard of that one?
No, let's go. Programs that are designed by like some guy, hashtag some guy. He's like 75 days and every day you do this list of things and the day you don't do every single one of those things you start from day one again.
Like that is, to me, feels really damaging to the psyche.
@28:27 - Meg Trucano
Yeah.
@28:28 - Coach Mac
Right. I feel like that is awful to me.
@28:30 - Meg Trucano
Hey, it might work for someone.
@28:32 - Coach Mac
You're not going to get your yum. Go for it. Um, so some structure, um, that leads to your goal in a way that you want to show up for more or less indefinitely.
Okay. So like for my program, it's like, cool, you're going to strength train three days week, could be two days a week.
That works too. You can do it at home. We're going to work on nutrition stuff that focuses on adding more than subtracting.
Right making sure you're getting enough protein enough food and vegetables. So that feels good Your we you can measure measure and weigh things down the line If that's part of the body comp goal, but for most people we can start off With a pretty generous structure, right?
feels good to show for this. is what felt good for me to show up for every day and continues feel good Every day because I don't I don't weigh and measure my food every day.
I have in the past Right, it's a good it's a helpful tool to visualize portions and the volume of food for your goals and all that stuff But weighing and measuring every day for the rest of times absolutely not ain't nobody got time.
@29:44 - Meg Trucano
No And I think there is to For me it's it's a good refresher to like I've gone through periods of time where I've weighed every mmm.
Just more soul of things that I put into my mouth.
@30:01 - Coach Mac
It sucks my soul out through my nose. I hate it. 100%.
@30:04 - Meg Trucano
But it's useful, as you said. It's a tool. It's a way for you to recalibrate and it doesn't have to be forever.
And that is a message I think we could all do a little bit of work around is this doesn't have to be something that sucks, right?
and nutrition can be something that actually makes you feel good and gives you energy. And you don't have to take it so seriously all the time.
And that's honestly what I love about your approach and your kind of the word that's coming to mind is countenance, which is absurd.
But like your energy, right? So yeah, and and this process of learning how to support ourselves through something major.
I think is one of life's shittiest feeling but best lessons.
@31:05 - Coach Mac
Right? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And the lessons were and focusing on the lessons too, as you're going through something .
Um, so like, cool, like, what can I, what am I learning from this? Just about myself? I learned a lot of things about myself.
Okay, great.
@31:23 - Meg Trucano
You can take that moving forward, you know?
@31:26 - Coach Mac
Like, like, what do I, what do I want in a partner? What do I want from my life? how do, how do I react to things that surprise me or uncomfortable and like, do we need to work on some of that stuff?
@31:42 - Meg Trucano
Or, you know, like, what do we learn in here?
@31:45 - Coach Mac
Because that can keep it, it can keep it a little more positive.
@31:52 - Meg Trucano
Completely agree. Completely agree. Yeah. do you have any final pieces of advice or work? the boy's gym or funny little one liners for our listeners.
@32:04 - Coach Mac
Funny little one. I like the people who got like a yeehaw kind of personality. You know, like let's go.
@32:11 - Meg Trucano
Let's rip, let's roar.
@32:13 - Coach Mac
is kind of funny because like the things I talk about seem to be the kind of opposite of like, let's go, right?
It's like, and let's pace it out and do our feelings. And does it feel good and that kind of stuff?
But it's like we can, we can rip roar and get there without the burnout. I promise it's totally possible.
It takes a little work up here in the noggin. A lot of the time my job is to pull the reins back on people, not whip them forward.
Which most people think of a coach is like, go, go, go, go, go.
@32:48 - Meg Trucano
Harder, faster.
@32:50 - Coach Mac
was like, no, you've got harder, faster. You've nailed that.
@32:54 - Meg Trucano
Good job.
@32:55 - Coach Mac
Now let's rein it in so we can channel that energy into the things that. really reward you and move you where you want to go without the detrimental effects of physical and mental burnout, which is what happens when people do things like 75 hard.
@33:13 - Meg Trucano
It might be. Yes. And at this point, some of us may be like, once again, being able to lift my kids would be super awesome without throwing my back out, you know?
And that is meaningful. That is hugely meaningful.
@33:33 - Coach Mac
What is like strong and powerful look like for you? Because then there's the classic, well, I don't want to be a bodybuilder.
So I'm worried about getting strong. It's like strong and powerful does not mean bodybuilder for me. And it sounds like it doesn't mean that for you.
So what does strong and powerful look like for you? does it feel like for you? And then that's what we're going to focus on and move toward.
@33:58 - Meg Trucano
You're not going to accidentally.
@34:00 - Coach Mac
and end up in this other place, right? know? So what does it look like for you and then how do you want to live every day while you are embodying that?
And then that's how you choose a program or a coach that aligns with that, it can help you get you there.
And it might take a second to find that person, but like be patient.
@34:26 - Meg Trucano
Love it, love it. Well, thank you so very much for joining us today on Changeology. So all your dates are gonna be in the show notes, of course, to share with our people.
where, if people are like, oh my God, have to find her immediately.
@34:44 - Coach Mac
How can they reach out to you? How can they contact you? Good thing. My website is Adventure Ready Academy.
And I'm on the Instagram. Brass Tax Strong is my business. the Adventure Ready Academy is my-
@36:00 - Meg Trucano
Thank you so much for your time and for sharing all of your tips and tricks and expertise with us and can't wait to see what's next for you in YouTube land and Yeah, we'll check you out in the adventure ready Academy.
@36:15 - Coach Mac
Thanks, Mick.
@36:16 - Meg Trucano
Stay strong. All right.
@36:17 - Coach Mac
Take care. Bye.